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10 Times That God Has Hit America With A Major Disaster After The U.S. Attempted To Divide The Land Of Israel

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Because Barack Obama has cursed Israel at the United Nations, America is now under a curse.  Friday’s stunning betrayal of Israel at the UN Security Council is making headlines all over the planet, but the truth is that what Obama has just done is far more serious than most people would dare to imagine.  Over the past several decades, whenever the U.S. government has taken a major step toward the division of the land of Israel it has resulted in a major disaster hitting the United States.  This keeps happening over and over again, and yet our leaders never seem to learn.  And despite the fact that President-elect Donald Trump, Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and prominent members of both parties in Congress strongly urged Obama to veto Security Council resolution 2334, he went ahead and let it pass anyway.

 

Because the United States has veto power on the UN Security Council, nothing can get passed without our support.  And it has been the policy of the U.S. government for decades to veto all anti-Israel resolutions that come before the Security Council.

But this time around, it appears that the Obama administration was working very hard behind the scenes to get this resolution pushed through the Security Council before the end of Obama’s term.  At least that is what Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is claiming

“From the information that we have, we have no doubt that the Obama administration initiated it, stood behind it, coordinated on the wording and demanded that it be passed,” Netanyahu said in a statement. “This is, of course, in complete contradiction of the traditional American policy that was committed to not trying to dictate terms for a permanent agreement, like any issue related to them in the Security Council, and, of course, the explicit commitment of President Obama himself, in 2011, to refrain from such steps.”

I am sure that there will be a tremendous amount of debate about to what extent the U.S. was involved in creating and drafting this resolution, but there is one thing that is exceedingly clear.

The ultimate decision as to whether or not this resolution would be adopted was in the hands of one man.  Barack Obama knew very well that he had this power, and in the end he ultimately decided to betray Israel.

And now that our government has cursed Israel at the UN, our entire nation will be cursed as a result.

In the Scriptures we are repeatedly told that God will bless those that bless Israel and will curse those that curse Israel.  When Barack Obama blocked a similar resolution that France wanted to submit for a vote in September 2015, it resulted in America being blessed, and we definitely have been blessed over the past 16 months.

But now that Barack Obama has reversed course and has betrayed Israel, we will most assuredly be cursed.  In the days ahead we will see how this plays out, and perhaps we can get some hints about what may happen by reviewing recent history.

There have literally been dozens of instances in recent decades when the U.S. has been hit by some sort of immediate disaster when it has made a move toward the dividing of the land of Israel.  The following are ten of the most prominent examples that stand out to me…

#1 The last time the U.S. government refused to veto an anti-Israel resolution at the UN Security Council was in 1979.  On March 22nd, 1979 the Carter administration chose not to veto UN Resolution 446.  Four days after that on March 26th, the Egypt-Israel Peace Treaty was signed in Washington.  As a result of that treaty, Israel gave up a tremendous amount of territory.  Two days later, on March 28th, the worst nuclear power plant disaster in U.S. history made headlines all over the globe.  The following comes from Wikipedia

The Three Mile Island accident was a partial nuclear meltdown that occurred on March 28, 1979, in reactor number 2 of Three Mile Island Nuclear Generating Station (TMI-2) in Dauphin County, Pennsylvania, United States. It was the most significant accident in U.S. commercial nuclear power plant history.[2] The incident was rated a five on the seven-point International Nuclear Event Scale: Accident With Wider Consequences.[3][4]

#2 On October 30th, 1991 President George H. W. Bush opened the Madrid Peace Conference which brought Israelis and Palestinians together to negotiate for the very first time.  In his opening speech, Bush told Israel that “territorial compromise is essential for peace”.  At the exact same time, “the Perfect Storm” was brewing in the north Atlantic.  This legendary storm traveled 1000 miles the wrong direction and sent 35 foot waves slamming directly into President Bush’s home in Kennebunkport, Maine.

#3 On August 23rd, 1992 the Madrid Peace Conference moved to Washington D.C., and the very next day Hurricane Andrew made landfall in Florida causing 30 billion dollars in damage.  It was the worst natural disaster up to that time in U.S. history.

#4 On January 16th, 1994 President Clinton met with President Assad of Syria to discuss the possibility of Israel giving up the Golan Heights.  Within 24 hours, the devastating Northridge earthquake hit southern California.  It was the second worst natural disaster up to that time in U.S. history.

#5 On January 21st, 1998 Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu arrived at the White House but received a very cold reception.  In fact, President Clinton and Secretary of State Madeleine Albright actually refused to have lunch with him. That exact same day the Monica Lewinsky scandal broke, sending the Clinton presidency into a tailspin from which it would never recover.

#6 On September 28th, 1998 Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was working on finalizing a plan which would have had Israel give up approximately 13 percent of Judea and Samaria. On that precise day, Hurricane George slammed into the Gulf Coast with wind gusts of up to 175 miles an hour.

#7 On May 3rd, 1999 Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat was supposed to hold a press conference to declare the creation of a Palestinian state with Jerusalem as the capital.  On that precise day, the most powerful tornadoes ever recorded in the U.S. ripped through Oklahoma and Kansas.  At one point one of the tornadoes actually had a recorded wind speed of 316 miles an hour.

#8 On April 30th, 2003, “the Road Map to Peace” that had been developed by the so-called “Quartet” was presented to Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon by U.S. Ambassador Daniel Kurtzer. Over the next seven days, the U.S. was hit by a staggering 412 tornadoes. It was the largest tornado cluster ever recorded up to that time.

#9 In 2005, President George W. Bush (the son of George H. W. Bush) convinced Israel that it was necessary to remove all of the Jewish settlers out of Gaza and turn it over entirely to the Palestinians.  According to the New York Times, the very last of the settlers were evacuated on August 23, 2005.  On that precise day, a storm that would be given the name “Katrina” started forming over the Bahamas.  The city of New Orleans still has not fully recovered from the damage that storm caused, and it ranked as the costliest natural disaster in all of U.S. history up to that time.

#10 On May 19th, 2011 Barack Obama told Israel that there must be a return to the pre-1967 borders. Three days later on May 22nd a half-mile wide EF-5 multiple-vortex tornado ripped through Joplin, Missouri. According to Wikipedia, it was “the costliest single tornado in U.S. history.”

The UN Security Council resolution that was passed on Friday is the biggest betrayal of Israel in modern history.  As I explained in my last article, I believe that America’s reprieve is now over and all hell is about to break loose in this country.

When Barack Obama blocked the UN Security Council from dividing the land of Israel in September 2015, according to the Word of God we should have been blessed as a nation as a result, and we were blessed.

But now Barack Obama has cursed Israel by stabbing them in the back at the United Nations, and according to the Word of God we should be cursed as a nation as a result.

And as surely as I am writing this article, we will be cursed.

About the author: Michael Snyder is the founder and publisher of The Economic Collapse Blog and The Most Important News. Michael’s controversial new book about Bible prophecy entitled “The Rapture Verdict” is available in paperback and for the Kindle on Amazon.com.

 
  • oUCH

    Thanks for this article Michael.. I am only sad that it had to be written. We will see what happens.. but this was calculated, planned and purposefully executed with what appears to be spiteful intent. I do not know the mans heart, but this appears to be vindictive and
    malicious; but God knows how to protect and defend His people.. and He will. He does not change. May God’s mercy be extended to all of His people even as His Judgement is poured out.

    .

  • Pete Okuhira

    Good.

  • Chris

    Judgment is approaching. The great tribulation is upon us all. Are you ready?

  • Hongling Song
  • Hongling Song

    A few days before Christmas, I met an sad person. His family were refugees from the war area between during 6 day war time they have to run away. Unfortunately, after they were in USA, their parents were murdered by Isareal specialists. They are real people from Palestine. I couldn’t judge. I only can pray the peace come from heaven……

  • kgan2013✓ᴺᵃᵗᶦᵒᶰᵃˡᶦˢᵗ

    Sorry but Obama is just a puppet….do NOT forget that Obama was made possible by Powerful Jews who HATE Israel & US….let us start with the brains behind Obama….Axelrod and Rahm Emmanuel…Jews, money from Soros…sorry Jew who worked with Nazis to kill other Jews & who wants to control Israel, Hollywood and Wall Street Jews …who funded and who funds Israel hating people on the left……do NOT forget the mother of all evil in the world –Rothschild who hate freedom of people everywhere and make sure there is chaos so that they can profit…..hope there is retribution first for these Jews who hate Israel and US….when Jews talk about hate …..let us not forget it is the Jews who share this hatred for Israel who are behind the haters of not only Israel but also US & other democratically elected governments across the world!

  • sonny

    Israel in the Bible is not the nation of Israel founded in 1948. The promise of blessing and cursing was to Abraham and applies to those who believe in the faith of the Bible… to Christians. Here’s the proof. “I will bless those who bless you, And I will curse him who curses you; And in you all the families of the earth shall be blessed” (Genesis 12:3). Galatians 3:7- “Therefore know that only those who are of faith are sons of Abraham.” “For they are not all Israel who are of Israel” (Romans 9:6) “28 A man is not a Jew because he is one outwardly, nor is circumcision only outward and physical. 29 No, a man is a Jew because he is one inwardly, and circumcision is a matter of the heart, by the Spirit, not by the written code. Such a man’s praise does not come from men, but from God. Romans 2:28,29 Hell is full of Jews who did not have “faith” in the Christ (Jesus) of the Bible for we see in Scripture (repeatedly) a small “remnant” of faithful believers among the Jewish ranks and God wiped out the rest with His judgment. Elijah thought he was the only believer in the whole nation but God told him there were 7,000. That means everyone else in the whole nation went to Hell which means they were not God’s people. Only the believers are God’s chosen people, so those who bless Christians will be blessed and those who curse Christians will be cursed.

  • Bruce Miller

    Spot on.

  • Big Al

    Sounds like the evangelical god at work……the President and Congress does something that doesn’t please him, so he slaughters/punishes the innocent……instead of Washington DC.

    This is an example of man’s created god, not the God Jesus revealed.

  • I was introduced to this liberal garbage back in college — and it is, indeed, garbage.

    Modern-day Israel is Biblical Israel.

  • CONNIE

    kgan2013 is right. We are protected by the Blood of Jesus & the Grace we received from his sacrifice for the faithful. I pray for both nations.

  • DJohn1

    There is a very well known negotiation in the Bible. It was when cities were going to be destroyed by God because of the evil thereof.
    And if 50 good people can be found will you still destroy the city?
    Then it is negotiated down to 10 and even 10 could not be found.
    Well, I can find 10 people in my city. Last Sunday, on Christmas, I saw an entire church full of people worshipping God and Jesus and they were sincere Christians.
    None of us are perfect. Only Jesus is worthy.
    Jesus was asked what is the most important commandment? He said to love the Lord your God with all your heart and all your soul. There are people here yet that fulfill that commandment.
    And despite a list of churches that ISIS wishes to destroy, here we stand.
    There will come a time and there will come a place where each and every one of us must make a decision. That decision is to stand up and declare our love of our God or to sit in silence. Me and my family stand with God regardless. And that sometimes is not easy to do, because everything people hold dear might be at stake in the near future.
    Right now and since the time of the crucifixion God appears to be standing neutral and not effecting things. That is false. There is a time and there is a place for everything.
    God chooses that time. Not me. Not you. Not any fully genetic human.
    Even Jesus awaits his Sire’s command. For out of Jesus’s own mouth he declared himself God’s son.
    If Israel stands with God, then God will take care of his own.
    The blessings and curses? Some would question the reality of curses and blessings.
    What Israel must do is put things in the hands of their God. The God of Abraham and definitely defined.
    Despite a history of being a playboy in the past, I believe God is likely to use Donald Trump for is own purposes.
    But be aware, Donald has put together a cabinet of some of the most powerful and wealthy men the world has every seen. Money talks. Power talks.
    I believe you are right. I believe that by cursing Israel, Obama has simply cursed himself. Time will tell.

  • sonny

    Prove it with something other than … “Adam says”. “Israel” has different meanings in Scripture. God had a covenant/contract with the nation of Israel in the Bible. The “nation” was made up of “believers” and “non believers”. Bring some Scripture to prove your point.

  • Yeah, it’ll be proven soon right here in this nation, sonny. You won’t have to wait long.

  • sonny

    I see … no Scriptural evidence to support your statement. Everyone has an opinion. Maybe you should read those Scriptures I quoted again and refute them if you can.

  • Nancy McKnabb

    “The Day has come, it is here! It has come! Says The Lord God – I shall repay! Your nation is given up and will be left in ruins, for all its forsaking of Me! For the roof is heavily weighted, all its pillars are cracked and can no longer bear the weight of their burden!… Behold, the wind shall blow, the fire shall burn, and all these riches shall be consumed!

    A swift storm shall come upon you, and you shall not know from where it comes. For it is already upon you, and is yet coming. It shall reach across the oceans, it shall be swift and catch you unawares. It is building and grows in its fury; it builds and has come!… And this shall be its consequence upon you, thus shall it bring forth against you: Confusion, a swirling wind; water, a flood of fear; destruction, collapse of all your foundations! Behold, even the earth shall rise up against you, and nature shall fight against you, O perverse and mighty nation!”

    ~

    “For your leaders have cast their lot with the Ishmaelites in the dividing of MY land, even of the children’s inheritance I had given to their forefathers forever!… And so I shall divide them! – With calamity, with famine, and with destitution! Yet they will turn, and anger shall swell in their faces over much betrayal, causing them to repent of that which they had promised. And they will again stand with the children of Abraham, until three days pass over. Then shall they be given into the hand of him called the horn of satan; their name dissolved, becoming one of the ten for one hour; then plucked up and broken, during which time The Lord shall bring forth of them a great harvest, a great and mighty harvest, a great multitude, a refined and strong people for My name.”

    Excerpts from:
    Recompense

    http://trumpetcallofgodonline.com/index.php5?title=Recompense

  • james lucas

    This is the one to watch as I heard it long ago from my grand father, and also my dad, like, “God’s time clock.

  • Exactly! Don’t sell out your inheritance to unfaithful people who are Jews by race and not by faith. This is why Jesus told a conservative Jew named Nicodemus that he must be born again. He had a real point with that choice of expression. he was saying that, just being a Jew by birth was not enough to inherit the eternal promise of Abraham.

    God always said that those Jews who were unfaithful would be “cut off” from his promise. Later, Paul said Jews HAD BEEN cut off because of unfaithfulness to Christ and that they would be grafted back in WHEN they became faithful to Jesus Christ. They could ONLY be grafted back into the Promise of Abraham that they were “CUT OFF” from through Jesus.

    Paul also explained that this did not mean the eternal promise to Abraham was not continuing. He explained that the entire promise had been inherited by a SINGLE faithful seed, not seeds, of Abraham — a single Jew named Jesus. Thus, the only way into the eternal promise was through Jesus.

    Fundamentalists are like Esau selling off their inheritance when they claim that unfaithful Jews are a part of this promise. It is those who curse the true Children of Abraham, as described by Sonny above, who will be cursed.

  • They are more dedicated to being right than to finding truth.

  • How is stating that something a nation is doing is “illegal” the same thing as “cursing” that nation. That seems like an enormous overstatement in judgment against Obama and against the US.

    Who was it that had “legal” right to decide what the boundaries of all nations in the Middle East would be? Was it not, first of all, God who said he would intentionally use Rome to destroy Israel and remove Jews from it? Was it not God, then, who raised up nations strong enough to eventually wrest that land away from Muslims? Is it not the victors of war who have the legal right to the spoils of war? Who fought and won the war that seized these lands from the Ottoman Turks and ended their empire? Was it not the Brits and French and Americans and other Wester allies PLUS ARABS who joined them on the promise that they would be given lands in the Middle East? Was it not Britain that promised Jews they would receive some, too? Was it not, however, the right of all nations who won that victor in WWI to have a say in how the spoils were divided? To do that, they created the League of Nations and expressly vested in it the right to decide the boundaries of the Middle East.

    Therefore, if the League of Nations, based on the legal rights of victory in war were allowed by God or raised up by God to gain control of that land, it is the League of Nations that determines the legal boundaries and that gave stated boundaries to Israel. Therefore, it is simply a FACT, not a curse, that Israel is operating illegally when it builds outside of its legal boundaries. You know law, Michael, so you know that Israel’s actions are illegal, and that is all this resolution has done — made a clear statement that Israel’s actions are illegal and that terrorism as a way of combating Israel’s actions is also illegal. A declaration of fact does not seem to me like a curse.

    How do any of us know that it is not God’s intent to bring Jews into the land IN ORDER TO bring them into something far more important than the land — faith in Jesus Christ? Even though he said he would bring them into the land unfaithful, where did he say he would leave them that way? Did he not say he would DISCIPLINE them in order to bring them into faithfulness? Did he not say that discipline would have to be extreme? Did he every say he would give them ALL the land and let them hold it in peace BEFORE they became faithful? How does any of us know that God has not brought them into just enough of the land to raise the hope of the promise in order to show them they can never have the promise outside of faith in Jesus Christ? Is there ANYONE here who can say he or she would stand up to God if that is how this comes down and say, “That is NOT what you promised.” If not, then maybe it IS what God promised. Does everyone understand everything God is going to do and how he is going to do it?

    Step back a second and look at what God did with Nebuchadnezzar. No one here would ever think that Obama’s actions were worse against Israel than Nebuchadnezzars. Nebu killed probably hundreds of thousands of soldiers, and what did God say? He warned JEWS that, if they resisted the ruler he was bringing against them to exercise God’s judgment, they would be severely punished for their resistance, and said it would go MUCH BETTER for them if they did not resist because God WAS NOT GOING TO HELP THEM. HE WAS NOT GOING TO HEAR THEIR PLEAS FOR HELP.

    When Nebuchadnezzar conquered Israel, he killed many Jews, and you can be certain that killing in those days was brutal. Those who did not fight him, such as it appears Daniel and his friends did not, were simply captured, and Nebu was very good to many of them. He even made Daniel and his friends honored leaders in the Babylonian empire.

    Did God curse Nebuchadnezzar for taking far worse action against Israel than Obama has ever even THOUGHT of doing? NO! He blessed him! So, how does anyone here have the right to threaten the US with curses and destruction for doing something FAR, FAR, FAR LESS than Nebuchadnezzar?

    God even praised Nebu and honored him by guiding and helping him through prophetic dreams. He praised him by describing him as the “golden head” of all the empires of the world that would come after him. Gold is clearly the most noble element in human thinking, and so God was clearly saying Nebu was a noble ruler.

    After Nebu had ample time to turn to God and then turned against God’s truly faithful Jews — Daniel and his friends — God did curse him for a time to teach him a lesson and made him go insane; but God also restored him. Nebuchadnezzar became one of the greatest and most famous emperors of all time. His capital city is still considered one of the seven wonders of the ancient world. God does not ever speak unkindly of him for destroying Israel and slaughtering thousands, maybe millions, of Jews.

    Why would we think that God’s bringing Jews into the promised land is going to happen any differently than when he brought them in the first time? Did God immediately give the entire land to Jews when Moses brought them to the land? No, he turned them all away for unfaithfulness and made them wander in the wilderness for forty years. When he let them in after that, did he give the first generation that entered all of it? The second? The third? No. It took numerous generations and dozens, maybe hundreds, of wars and skirmishes to finally gain all the land. So, how can anyone say today that God intends to simply bring them all in and give it to them in their unfaithful state.

    Has he brought them in unfaithful as he said he would? Yes. They are there, and they are almost all unfaithful to his Messiah. Did God ever say he would bring ALL OF THEM in unfaithful before he began disciplining them to turn them faithful? Did he ever say he would give the ALL OF THE LAND while they were still unfaithful? Maybe his plan is to bring enough of them there to make the taste of Abraham’s promise REAL and POTENT so they will lust after it … only to make it impossible for them to get it by their own doing SO that they will start asking, “Why did God bring us here and give us this much of the promise just to keep most of the land from us and even to start taking bits of it away?”

    If he doesn’t make them ask existential question, how will they be made faithful? Is the land more important than the Promised Prince of that land, who is called the Prince of Peace because only he can rule the land in peace because God gave the full promise of Abraham to him to dispense to those who are his — those who are faithful to him, who love him, and who obey his commandments, which are only to 1) Love the Lord your God with all your hear, all your body, all your mind and all your soul; and 2) love your neighbor as yourself. (The New Covenant that can be written on people’s hearts because it is so simple.)

    Why would anyone think that what I just said is sacrilegious or contrary to God? is God not free to do it that way if he chooses and still be within all the statements his prophets have made?

  • One part is left out of this prophecy — the part that originally indicated how long it would take to be completely fulfilled:

    “And when three times pass, it shall be accomplished, it shall surely come to pass, the elect shall be gathered, all those in whom I see of Myself.”

    Accomplished — complete. While that is vague, when a prophecy appeared in the Bible that said something would happen in “a time, times and half a time” the word time meant a year, so that was “a year, two years, and half a year” for a total of three and half years. While “three times” is vague, it would seem this biblical precedence of it meaning three years is the most likely interpretation given the other words around it that provide context:

    “The Day HAS COME, it is HERE! It HAS COME! Says The Lord God – I shall repay!”

    That is about as NOW as you can get. “It is ALREADY HERE.”

    But the prophecy was recorded in 2007, almost a decade ago. and what was it that was HAD COME?

    “Your nation [the US] is given up and will be LEFT IN RUINS.”

    It certainly will be left in ruins someday, and that may not be far off; but it didn’t happen then. So, how can the prophecy TRUTHFULLY say, “the day has come … IS HERE?”

    Why is it that, with ALL modern self-proclaimed prophets, “is here” ALWAYS means “is ALMOST here?” “Has come” always wind up meaning,”it will come in a year; no, two years; then three, finally a decade?” And we never do actually see it happen. “Now” never means now. It always gets revised forward, year after year after many more years!

    Am I being too tough to say the prophecy said “NOW” in 2007?

    “A swift storm shall come upon you, and you shall not know from where it comes. FOR IT IS ALREADY UPON YOU, and is yet coming.”

    In other words, we should IMMEDIATELY see it beginning because it was ALREADY UPON US, but we would also see it unfold as something greater and greater.

    “It shall reach across the oceans, it shall be swift and catch you unawares. It is building and grows in its fury; it builds AND HAS COME!…”

    Well, if the prophecy was all about financial problems, then that would be true. The financial problems already existed in 2007, but were not known or acknowledge by most. I saw them, and said great financial ruin was going to START IN THE US and spread to the world; but this prophecy said it would start in the east and spread across the ocean to the US, which is certainly not how the financial crash of 2008 happened. But the prophecy was not even primarily about financial ruin:

    “And this shall be its consequence upon you, thus shall it bring forth against you: Confusion, a swirling wind; water, a flood of fear; destruction, collapse of all your foundations! Behold, even the earth shall rise up against you, and nature shall fight against you, O perverse and mighty nation!”

    The prophet cannot say these were figurative terms that meant our financial foundations would collapse because the words clearly state that “nature shall fight against you.” Yet, nothing greater in nature than I remember in all earlier parts of my life has happened. The number of hurricanes very shortly after that decreased. There have been no serious earthquakes in the US since that time. There have been a lot of tornadoes and floods, but I don’t remember any time when there were not. In fact, Obama’s time has been relatively short on major natural disasters compared to George Bush’s rein when we saw Katrina and the flood of New Orleans or what other parts of the world saw in those times, such as the earthquakes and tsunamis in Indonesia and Japan. We went through the entire Obama period without having our foundations ruined by to the degree that they were in Bush’s day before this prophecy was given.

  • michael malachi

    I am sorry that you were offended by the words in my last post. That was not my intent. I do ask that you go humbly before God, and weigh the information that I offered in my posts that are sure to offer Biblical proof that No angel has ever been called a son of God.

    Hebrews 1:5 At no time has God ever called any angel a son.
    Hebrews 1:14 Angels are spirits not flesh
    Luke 3:38 Adam called son of God
    Jesus called son of God. (Godly line Adam to Jesus) Gen 4:25 the seed
    Hosea 2:1 Israel called sons of God
    Isaiah 43:6 Men called sons of God
    Deuteronomy 14:1 men called children of God
    Genesis 6:5 & 12 The reason for the flood – mans wickedness

    Your anger is misplaced and should be place upon those who misguided you to believe in the angelic myth. I pray that you have the strength to come into God’s truth on this subject.

  • michael malachi

    Amen brother. Some do not want this message, no matter how well it is supported by scripture.

  • michael malachi

    Amen brother

  • michael malachi

    Maybe we should not be taking Biblical advice from one who is still living within the old covenant. Romans 6 – Just a thought.

  • Right. I understand, Michael. You seem to be taking my banning you off of my forum as some type of twisted concession to you.

    Regardless, no matter how much you prop your doctrine up, it can still never satisfactorily answer and address the following:

    1) Men, alone, cannot copulate with women and produce a unique class of beings called giants (Genesis 6).

    2) Men cannot function in Satan’s direct presence — in the second Heaven — as he presents himself before the LORD and petitions for the souls of men (Job 1 & 2).

    3) Men could not exist, prior to the creation of Adam, during God’s completion of the foundations of the earth, as they shouted for joy (Job 38:7).

    – – – – – – –

    And yes: I do understand that you’ll still operating under the same doctrinal error of interpreting an entire topic (e.g. sons of God, angels, etc.) via the lens of a singular verse of Scripture.

    And yes: I do understand that you will, likely, not take this correction from me and continue to push forward, and push your doctrine.

  • michael malachi

    I have proven with scripture that the sons of God are men and that angels can not breed with humans. The idea of this crossbreed theory is only myth, not supported by the Bible.
    Thus there is no need to prove any thing further.
    I will offer you this:
    1. Giants are not the offspring of the unions spoken of in genesis 6. Verse 5 is clear to say that giants existed before these unions happened and also after that.
    2. In the Job account Satan can not enter heaven because that would be to contradict many scriptures and the Gospel. The reason for Christ to come was to free mankind from sin, so to give him a way to be cleansed – so that mankind can go to heaven. If your account of Job were to be correct, there would be no reason for Christ to come and die for our sins. The sons of God in Job are the Godly men within the line from Seth and Christ being of that line and also called son of God is evidence of that. They presented themselves before the Lord and satan came among them (on earth) very much like Cain and Able came before the Lord with their sacrifices.
    3. Romans 8 & Ephesians 1 show that God knew us before the creation. Thus Those in Christ were in existence before creation in some form.

  • 1. Genesis chapter 6 verse 1 & 2 refute you, in that the sons of God existed before the giants did. In addition, verse 4 clearly states that the giants were brought into existence due to the sons of God copulating with the daughters of men.

    ^ That is plain and clear context.

    2. II Corinthians 12:2 testifies to there being three heavens. The 3rd Heaven is God’s Throne and dwelling place; the 2nd Heaven is, essentially, the spirit world; and the 1st Heaven is our natural realm.

    Satan et. al still has access to the 1st and 2nd Heavens. Twice when demanded by God where he came from, Satan answered that he came from going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it (ref. Job 1:7 & Job 2:2).

    Him, and the sons of God, were presenting themselves before the LORD in the 2nd Heaven.

    3. Personal speculation and conjecture. That interpretation throws the entire doctrine of sin entering into the world into a dilemma — as it suggests that mankind was both cognizant existent and had a sinless nature before God’s creation of Adam.

    – – – – – – –

    Scripture is plain and clear that the sons of God in the Old Testament were fallen angels. Mankind, alone, cannot produce giants. Mankind cannot operate alongside Satan, in the 2nd Heaven, as he petitions God for the souls of man. Mankind did not exist, prior to Adam, as they shouted for joy upon God finishing the foundations of the earth.

    Sorry again if this doesn’t jive with your personal doctrines.

    Now if you’ll excuse me, I’m going to end this discussion with you as I have more important things to do as this point. You can feel free to take this as some sort of concession to you (which it isn’t), but I am quite done here with you on this topic.

    Good day to you.

  • michael malachi

    There is no point in arguing with you. You clearly have a distorted and predetermined position on the subject.

    The fact remains that there is no scripture which says that any angels are or were sons of God – (you assume that) But there is scripture which states that angels have never been sons of God. (Hebrews 1)

    Truth is, that I don’t need to win a debate. I honestly don’t care about that. My job is to bring God’s truth to those who would hear, and I am sorry, but you have ears that do not hear. You have closed yourself off to the truth on this subject. I am sorry.

  • Nancy McKnabb

    You will have to take it up with God… these are His words given to THIS generation. Your correction is of Him! God bless you!

  • Why would God expect that I believe every word that claims to be from him … IS from him? Are you recommending that all of us believe EVERYthing spoken by EVERYone who claims to be a prophet so long as it sounds like it could be from God? God has given me no reason to believe you have any special credibility that makes you his prophet. I’ve not witnessed you performing any miracles or saying anything that came true.

    This, by the way, is the typical thinly veiled divine threat I’ve gotten from every false prophet I’ve questioned over the past twenty years. And, in the completely typical pattern of all false prophets, “now” is always vague enough to be completely untestable. In this case, you say “now” means sometime in “this generation.” That means we have to wait until all of us are dead to know whether or not you speak on behalf of God because, so long as anyone in this generation is alive it could still happen in THIS generation.

    Sometimes I think the defensive pattern of “now you’ll have to deal with God” is the surest sign of false prophecy of all.

  • John Amway Ibo

    Let the disaster hit Obama and the White House .
    God will allow bad things happen

  • ONE happy Lady

    YOU can’t mess with Israel

  • ONE happy Lady

    Prayers for you. The Bible is the truth and not garbage

  • Thank you for your prayers, ma’am. And I do agree that the Bible is truth.

    However, this notion that modern-day Israel is not the same Israel in which God made an everlasting covenant with Abraham is false.

    Those that bless or curse Israel shall be dealt with, in kind, by God.

    We, in America, need to be ready and have our spiritual houses in order.

  • ONE happy Lady

    There was an earthquake in Nevada this morning

  • ONE happy Lady

    Sorry think I might have misunderstood your comment

  • Teresa F

    Wow. This definitely shined a different light on this topic for me. Thank you for sharing your insight.

  • It’s no problem at all, ma’am. 🙂

  • Thanks, Teresa. I’m glad it was helpful for someone.

  • All words of domination and judgement that are completely typical of false prophets. In fact, I readily and fairly search through the volumes of this “prophet’s” words to see if they are real. I have, since reading here, read many of his prophecies, giving them the chance to show themselves to be God’s word. So far, I have only finished the first volume, but in NONE of his first prophecies did he ever predict anything that actually happened. The prophecies start in the latter part of 2004, and they tend to be legalistic and judgmental.

    HOWEVER, I pray as I read each one, acknowledging that it is possible that I am simply not legalistic or judgmental enough myself, talking with God as I read each sentence. I see that prophecies claim God is giving signs that the prophet is real, and the prophet (like any false prophet, though this does not mean he is false) speaks against those who don’t believe him. So, I read on for any indication that this prophet EVER said anything that came to pass, and I don’t find it anywhere in the first volume.

    Most notably, in the one prophecy that claims to be a sign that the prophet speaks for God, the prophet says God says that the tsunami that came at Christmas time was his sign. Only problem is that the prophet wrote this prophecy three days after the event happened. Wow! What an extraordinary opportunity missed. Had the prophecy been given three days before the event — an extraordinarily huge and devastating event that has “biblical in scale” — God really would have provided a sign that this prophet might be speaking under his divine inspiration. But to claim it as a sign AFTER THE FACT, any village idiot could do that much. Doesn’t mean this guy is an idiot or is false. I’m just saying there was nothing, even in the prophecy of signs that gives even a hint that God was speaking through him because anyone can make up anything they want AFTER the fact. It is the person speaks clearly of extraordinary events BEFORE they happen that merits some attention. But I’ll keep reading with an open mind, though it takes a lot of my time, to see if there is anything in these words that can be authenticated as predictive. There certainly isn’t in the first volume of his writings. It is frustrating to read so much that endlessly repeats it is from God with evidence to support that claim; but I am giving it a fair read, as willing to be moved one way as the other; but extraordinary claims by human beings to be speaking great end-time prophecies for God DO require a little evidence and not just blind faith that it is true because the “prophet” says it is true or even that is true because it deals accurately with scripture. Many are accurate in quoting scripture, who use it to support their own prophecies of the future that prove to be false. I’ll report back here if I find any evidence that this prophet who wrote more than a decade ago ever predicted anything that actually happened.

  • Because there are over 400 pages to read through, I did a little preliminary search to see if there was anything about three of the other biggest world events in my lifetime that happened in this particular period — hurricane Katrina, the costliest storm in US history; the global financial collapse, which I I think will take us into the end times; and the Fukushima earthquake and tsunami. Searched by every word I could think of throughout the prophetic documents, and found no mention of any of those prior to the events, themselves. (Not by name or even generally, such as a mention of great “earthquake” or “wave” or “tsunami.” NOTHING.

    That wouldn’t mean anything, EXCEPT that this prophet said several times that God was going to raise him up to be a prophet to the WORLD, a trumpet for the end times — that God would provide signs that empower him. That was twelve years ago, and many of his pages have only been visited about 7,000 times during all those years. Only 600 reads per year on pages that some individuals have probably accessed more than once is a very small audience. So, it does not APPEAR that God has empowered the prophet for his mission; but he may have many other websites, etc.

    When “Timothy” questioned whether he would have the capacity to carry this mission forward, he says God told him, “Did He not give unto Moses a staff through which His power was shown? Has He not made you that much better than a man’s walking stick?”

    Where is that staff that God gave Moses as evidence to Moses first and then to all others that Moses spoke for God?

    Since the prophet said God told him that he was going to strengthen him with signs and wonders for these times, I would have thought God would use the opportunity provided by the greatest events of our lifetime to show this prophet really is hearing from God; but it would appear from my earnest searching, there was total silence throughout that time on these enormous catastrophes.

    That doesn’t mean God isn’t speaking through him, but there sure doesn’t appear to be any evidence within the words that God is or even that God has empowered “Timothy” as a prophet for our times.

    There is no point in quoting to me the bit about “only and evil generation asks for signs,” for this prophet in the beginning asked for signs, HIMSELF, and HE was the one claiming to hear from God; so if HE needed a sign that it was really God speaking to him (and he says God gave him those signs), he certainly cannot expect anyone else to believe God is speaking to him without some signs that that is so. The prophet couldn’t bring himself to believe it without a few signs that he claims he received personally.

    How can you sling scriptures agains me that I will have to answer to God, when even after the signs that he asked for supposedly happened for him the prophet writes, “The Lord God has spoken to you MANY TIMES, yet you have not listened. This I say to you, once again, so you may hear and understand: Chosen are you of men, and of men have I chosen you. Though you DOUBT, this fact does not change, for even whatsoever I think comes to pass.”

    If the prophet had to hear many times, even after receiving signs, and still doubted his own experience, how dare his spokesperson sling veiled threats at others though scripture bombs and prophecy grenades when others also doubt those same experiences, which THEY DIDN’T EVEN GET TO HAVE and who don’t know the prophet from Adam. It is an absurd and unjust stance to take. (But entirely typical of false prophets who have too much ego in the game and who always wind up trying to dominate spiritually.)

  • Have pretty well finished my research into this self-appointed prophet. While he never says so, he appears to be a Seventh-Day Adventist: He is stridently legalistic about observing the Sabbath and doing so only on Saturday. He is stridently legalistic against observing Christmas or other religious holidays, other than those in the Old Testament. The Law that he comes back to over and over is the Ten Commandments, though all of us believe in those, except some see the Sabbath differently. He speaks a lot of woes to those who believe in an eternal hell. Over and over and over his words are woe and condemnation to Christians who do not abide by what, as far as I can see, is pure Seventh-Day Adventist theology. All other churches are corrupted and will pay dearly for their corruption (as opposed to merely become enlightened by the savior who loves them). His wife is very clearly to be subjugated to him and to serve him, as is her delight. I cannot find anything that differs from Seventh-Day Adventism, so it’s pretty clear that, in the very least, he comes out of that movement.

  • peterrlake

    If you believe this, you believe that God is a murdering, ethnic cleansing, home destroying, land stealing, racist A-H, who believes in torturing children.

  • peterrlake

    If you believe this, you believe that God is a murdering, ethnic
    cleansing, home destroying, land stealing, racist A-H, who believes in
    torturing children.
    Actually Kerry is correct. The time when Israel and Palestine can be divided has long past (and Netanyahu has, in Hebrew, stated as such for a decade) The only possible solution now is a single state with equal rights for all. My friends with Christian Peacemakers as well as Jewish friends who’ve lived and worked in the occupied west bank (outside of the Jewish-only settlements) say that,most of their Palestinian friends would be quite happy to be part of an Israel as long as they (Palestinian Christians, Muslims, and Druz) had equal rights with Palestinian Jews (Mizrahim) and Israeli Jews.

  • May the CRIMINAL state of Israel GO TO HELL!

  • Glen McConnell

    Hi Dave.
    Thanks for that we’ll thought out post.
    It does miss some key points though which you’ll need to consider.
    The obvious one is that the League of Nations collapsed and no longer existed by the time Israel was re-established as a nation in the region of Palestine. It was the brand new UN that validated Israel under resolution 181 in 1947. #181 gave Israel 53% of the region of Palestine. Israel then proclaimed its independence in 1948.
    It was Saudi Arabian troops that occupied Jerusalem & Israel for the UN in order to hand it to the Jews. It was then administered by Britian in various ways into the 1950’s until that potato got to hot and Britain bailed out.
    The other key point is that in 1967 the surrounding Arab nations combined to all attack Israel at once but lost badly. In defending itself Israel expanded its territory to 73% of the region. This is where most people come unstuck but given your earlier comments on this I think you are already cognisant of this.
    International law states that land obtained during a defensive war becomes the territory of the country that was attacked. Under international law Israel is the rightful owner of that land won in 1967.
    This was ratified by the UN under resolution 242 which only required Israel to give back some small portions of land in order to ensure water supply etc. Israel complied.
    Israel has then gone even further by doing several land swaps for peace. The two racial groups displaced to allow Israel to go home in 1947 where Jordanians & Egyptians. (Yasser Arafat said “don’t call us Palestinians, we are Jordanians & Egyptians”)
    Israel did a land swap for peace with Egypt which Egypt has honoured.
    Where things went pear shaped was that in 1988 Arafat saw the value of adopting the name Palestine to garner international sympathy and declared the PLO terrorist organisation to be a nation named Palestine.
    Israel has since twice done land for peace swaps with Palestine but Palestine keeps failing to honour these.
    The fact that the current powers of Palestine, Hamas & Hezbollah, both have written into their charters that they will not stop fighting till the last Jew is dead should explain why.

  • Hi Glen,

    I think it would be more fair to say that the League of Nations completed its job of setting out the boundaries that the victorious nations wanted and that were their right to create and, therefore, lost its reason to continue as it was. That doesn’t mean they did a GOOD job, and certainly the nations they created were not content to leave the boundaries where they were. No institution, once created, wants to just wrap up and close its doors, however; so, having finished their job, they all saw that it was (in their view, not mine) time to create something bigger of themselves — something for the road ahead (being globalists at heart), so they folded the League of Nations into the UN, giving their rights to this new more global body. Indeed, the vote that to finalize the state of Israel happened as one of the early acts of the brand-new body.

    Also, left out of your points above are the fact that one of the major things that made the Israel potato too hot for the British to want to keep holding it were actions by the Irgun that sabotaged the British. I’m not sure where “International law states that land obtained during a defensive war becomes the territory of the country that was attacked.” You’d have to point me out to that actual law for me to see what it means in context. Not saying you are wrong, but I’ve never heard of the UN accepting new boundaries based on anyone’s occupation, even occupation in a defensive war … in the absence of surrender and a treaty.

    Regardless, at no point has any nation on earth recognized or agreed to Israel’s attempt to establish new boundaries, including the UN as a whole, which did have the right vested into it to work out boundaries in the Middle East. I don’t disagree that Israel took the land in a defensive move in a situation that it did not provoke, but without terms of surrender, the war never actually ended. All you have is retreat and a choice by the occupying party to hold the line established by that retreat. This is exactly why the allies fought UNTIL they obtained unconditional surrender from both Japan and Germany so that THEY could lay down the terms of surrender they wanted. Nothing close to that happened in 1967, which leaves the entire situation an undetermined mess.

  • Kathryn De Laughter Patterson

    I’m waiting for the worst blizzard ever to hit our town. And gee, I don’t like snow.

  • Pink Panther

    This so-called prophet is a seventh day Adventist and bears all the classic earmarks of one: 1) You must keep the 10 commandments AND accept Christ as your Savior to be saved, 2) There is no Hell, 3) You can lose your Salvation, and 4) You must keep the Sabbath. They claim to need only the Bible but always quote Ellen White or some other false prophet that prophecies AFTER that event takes place or utter a prophecy that never takes place. Isaiah 8:20 “To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this Word, it is because there is no light in them.”