Pope Francis Declares That Christian Fundamentalism ‘Is A Sickness’

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Is a belief in the strict, literal interpretation of the Bible “a sickness”?  Pope Francis appears to think so.  Just a few days ago, multiple reporters heard Francis describe fundamentalism as “a sickness that is in all religions” – including Christianity.  But precisely what is fundamentalism?  If you go to Google, it is defined as “a form of a religion, especially Islam or Protestant Christianity, that upholds belief in the strict, literal interpretation of scripture.”  So does Pope Francis really intend to “combat” those that believe in a literal interpretation of the Bible?

I know that this may sound really bizarre to many of you.  But apparently the Pope really said these things.  The following is an excerpt from an article that has been posted on Life Site News

Fundamentalism is a sickness that is in all religions,” Francis said, as reported by the National Catholic Reporter’s Vatican correspondent, Joshua McElwee, and similarly by other journalists on the plane.  “We Catholics have some — and not some, many — who believe in the absolute truth and go ahead dirtying the other with calumny, with disinformation, and doing evil.”

“They do evil,” said the pope. “I say this because it is my church.”

We have to combat it,” he said. “Religious fundamentalism is not religious, because it lacks God. It is idolatry, like the idolatry of money.”

But the Pope didn’t stop there.

He went on to blame Christians for starting many wars

“Like everything, there are religious people with values and those without,” he said. “But how many wars … have Christians made? The sacking of Rome was not done by Muslims, eh?”

During his papacy, Francis has made it a point to reach out to leaders from all sorts of different religions.

But apparently his “tolerance” does not extend to those that believe that the Bible is actually true.  And this is not the first time that he has said something like this.  Last year, he publicly stated that there is not any room for “fundamentalism” in Christianity…

Following his first visit to the Middle East as pope last month, the pontiff criticized fundamentalism in Christianity, Islam and Judaism as a form of violence.

“A fundamentalist group, even if it kills no one, even it strikes no one, is violent. The mental structure of fundamentalism is violence in the name of God.”

Sadly, these comments have not gotten the international attention that they deserve.

If the Pope really does not believe that the Bible is literally true, that would explain a lot.  For example, the Bible tells us that we are to reject other gods, but earlier in his papacy Francis authorized “Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran” at the Vatican for the first time ever…

For the first time in history, Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran will be heard at the Vatican on Sunday, in a move by Pope Francis to usher in peace between Israelis and Palestinians.

Francis issued the invitation to Israeli President Shimon Peres and Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas during his visit last week to Jordan, Israel, and the Palestinian Authority.

Abbas, Peres, and Francis will be joined by Jewish, Christian and Islamic religious leaders, a statement released by Peres’s spokesperson said, according to the Times of Israel.

And as I documented in a previous article entitled “In New York, Pope Francis Embraced Chrislam And Laid A Foundation For A One World Religion“, Pope Francis also apparently believes that Christians and Muslims worship the exact same God.

He truly is setting the stage for a one world religious system, and yet most Christians in the western world don’t seem very alarmed about this at all.

So what do you think about the Pope’s recent statements?

Please feel free to tell us what you think by posting a comment below…

80 thoughts on “Pope Francis Declares That Christian Fundamentalism ‘Is A Sickness’”

  1. Good article. I especially appreciate how you point out that this “tolerant” Pope is anything but tolerant to Fundamentalists, even those who commit no violence. He is a dangerous false teacher.

      • Please read my comment again. I said, “even those who commit no violence.” The term “Fundamentalist” does not mean a person who kills people. It means people who hold to the fundamental doctrines of the faith. The term originated at the turn of the 20th century to describe those Christians who still believed in doctrines such as Biblical inerrancy, the Virgin Birth, the death, burial, and resurrection of Christ, etc.

        For the Pope to broad brush “fundamentalism” and call it a sickness and say that they “do evil” is both intolerant and wrong.

        • One has to have the proper definition of fundamentalists and of Jesus Christ to intelligently enter this discussion otherwise it is a case of the blind leading the blind.
          His grace is sufficient understandsome this.

      • No. If I did there would be many Independent Fundamental baptists would be as dead as a door nail. Not that I believe in bringing violence to those I disagree with-the rest should speak for itself. In fact, the crucifixion of Christ was the exact reason the Pharisees had him crucified. Not saying anything but this should never go with that!

    • He’s been a liar and a murder and a accuser from the very beginng. But the cool part is that when she finally succeeds, those “ten regional governing zones” Rome – through the UN creates – will ALL HATE HER and destroy her with Fire.

      Babylon the Great has fallen, has fallen!

      Amen. And thank you Jesus!

      What if the Pope was one of us? Just a slob like one of us? Just a stranger on the bus trying to find her way (into your stuff and into your) home?

  2. Reap it America. You left the “true love” and exchanged it for garbage religions like this. The stage is being set for the blatant persecution of Christians in the United States.

  3. I dont know that much about the Pope himself but a lot of the teachings within the Katolic Church is not from God at all. So it is no wonder that he may be lost in this o´ther issus to. I read an articel today in Swedish press about the near future of the IS and there destruction and then the Islamic treath is gone…. and i wonder… are people blind, cant they see what is going on, there are of course muslims that are moderat and seekers of God, and if they are honest God will lead them to the door into the sheephouse, but the have to come ” true the door “… Jesus is the ONLY way to God… When a Guy like the Pope makes an effort to unite water and fire he makes a contra thing that doesnt work… when we speak the truth it gets an oppertunity to set people free… but only if we tell it…

  4. I agree that the pope is setting the stage for a one-world religion — so long, of course, as it is guided by (ruled by) Rome. I also agree with another comment here that things are developing along lines that will see Christian Fundamentalists as just as much a part of the problem as Islamic Fundamentalists, which will lead to intensified persecution of all Christians.

    However, Christian Fundamentalists have done much to set this stage for themselves. While there are many good people among them — kind and charitable people who truly love God — they do tend to be the most Pharisaic arm of the Christian church. The problem is not that they take the Bible literally, but that they only take it literally when it suits THEIR theology, which they believe to be inerrant. The problem is not that they think the Bible is without error but that they think their own view of it is without error as being the true “literal” view of the Bible.

    For example, Fundamentalists CLAIM that they take the Genesis creation story literally … UNTIL they get to Day Three where the Bible says God created the sun. At that point, completely inconsistent with every other day in the narrative, they say that God didn’t really CREATE the sun on the third day but that he removed a vapor in the skies that made the sun visible as a round object in the sky rather than just a diffused light through the clouds. They KNOW this because the days in Genesis are clearly literal solar days — never mind that the sun wasn’t created yet and never mind that there are many places in scripture where the same Hebrew word translated “day” is used to mean a long period of time, such as “in the day of King David,” referring to the forty-year period of his reign or “in the day of the Lord,” referring to the entire end-time period when earth goes through great calamity and not just the one day when Jesus returns.

    Nevertheless, Fundamentalists are SO CERTAIN that their understanding of Genesis is the right one, that they label evolution as evil and those who teach it as teaching evil and pull their kids out of public schools (where they could be a light to others) particularly to avoid this one evil. (Not that people don’t have many other reasons for taking their kids out of public schools, but this has often been a major one.)

    More importantly, they tend to believe that righteousness comes from works — and often from the most superficial outward displays, such as not smoking or cussing or drinking. They decry the Catholic Church and other religious groups that teach that salvation comes from works, but then they live a life that says righteousness (not salvation) comes from works — that “holiness” exists in our righteous living, but that righteous living usually has a lot less to do with serving the poor and living humbly before non-Christians and a lot more to do with showing how righteously they live before non-Christians (as an upstanding example of course) by how they look and what they refuse to take part in — gambling, playing in a pool hall, smoking weed, etc..

    Thus, they judge as unrighteous those who lead a rough-looking life, even though the person they’re judging may, in fact, be a much more truly righteous person than they are; but lacks superficial righteousness. In other words, he drinks, smokes and cusses a blue streak; but he’d give his shirt to the poor or punch in the face someone who was abusing his spouse or a child, while the Fundamentalist IN SOME CASES goes as far as to defend the abuser by telling the beaten spouse she must submit to him while they lack the courage to kick the abuser out of the church and keep him in his position as a trustee. In some cases, the abused spouse is treated as if she is less Christian for wanting to leave the home than the abuser is for beating her.

    Fundamentalism is an ugly mess that mysteriously likes to think it looks righteous to others — that the way they are living sets an example that others might aspire to when, in fact, others just see some seriously messed up people that they would hate to be like. That said, I know many wonderful Fundamentalists who are true Christians, in spite of their Fundamentalism and who really do love people and not just judge people by superficial outward things like smoking and cussing. I’m certain those outward things are FAR, FAR less significant to God (having NEVER actually been defined in the Bible as even being sins) than such things as standing bravely against abuse of any kind, including inserting yourself between the fist and the face of the abused.

    Christian Fundamentalist are rarely ever as violent as Islamic Fundamentalists. In fact, I’d say the only violent ones have been ones who were that way because of mental illness, BUT their Fundamentalism clearly fed into their acts of violence — gave their mental illness a violent path to follow as they focused on teachings about God destroying unrighteousness, going to just a greater literal extreme of taking that as the path God would have them follow if they are to be true champions of the faith. There is a zeal to Fundamentalism that encourages people to pass the bounds of civility. I’ve known dedicated Christian Fundamentalists who served on the worship team in their church and then to show their zeal went out on the street and preached God’s condemnation to everyone walking by who looked unrighteous. They were certain they were zealously doing God’s work by preaching righteousness to the street.

    So, it is a sickness … or, at least, it readily feeds sickness that already exists in the human mind. Whatever you do, don’t pop a Fundamentalist’s self-righteous bubble because he’s likely to spew is spiritual pride all over you.

    –Knave Dave

    • you still hate the truth and its easier to find a way to blame those who do know the literal truth… from an ex atheist to you because we are not worthy to even say His name but it is satan that calls us to mock His name, whether through wicked ideas of evolution (which I was taught to believe in the schools, that only depressed me, as I had to go back home to a non christian, wicked, hateful, sadistic enviroment) or whether through the disguised, maggot filled philosophies of self righteous souls who seek to exalt something other than Jesus Christ… what is it that we are debating? I pray you turn to your Father, because although you mean well, this idea and all mans intellect will burn in hell

      • As I said, “Whatever you do, don’t pop a Fundamentalist’s self-righteous bubble because he’s likely to spew is spiritual pride all over you.”

        I didn’t mock HIS name or even make a mockery of Fundamentalists. I pointed out that Pharisaism is most likely to be found among Fundamentalists, and you took it as mocking God, himself. The Pharisees were religious conservatives who were dedicated to preserving Judaism from the erosion it was seeing under the Romans, so they laid out the law in clear terms to make sure their fellow Jews lived a “holy” life before God by dotting all the “i’s” and crossing all the “t’s” of the law for perfect living. Many Pharisees, like Nicodemus, were good people, zealously dedicated to living righteously for God, just as are many Christian Fundamentalists. Yet, many Pharisees lost the HEART of the message by focusing too hard on holiness through clean and pure living and by starting to see their own interpretations of God’s law as being GOD’S LAW. (So, to disagree with them, was to disagree with God, himself. Thus, they saw Jesus as a heretic because he disagreed with them, which was the same as disagreeing with the scriptures in their proud view.)

        As I wrote, “The problem is not that [Fundamentalists] think the Bible is without error but that they think their own view of it is without error.” There is such a streak of pride within Fundamentalism among Christians, just as among Muslims, that they are dead certain their own view is God’s view and that anyone who points out the problems with their view is clearly mocking God, himself. They often become too convinced of the perfection of their own understanding and take anything that speaks against that understanding as mockery of God.

        That seems awfully close to equating oneself with God, even while denying that one does so. “I am not God, so I am not perfect, BUT my understanding of God and the Bible is flawless; so, if you disagree, you are spreading seeds of evil and mocking God.”

        –Knave Dave
        The Great Recession Blog

    • WOW! That is not my understanding of a Fundamentalist. Nor was I ever taught that after coming to the Lord. Some of what you say may be so, but much is not. I believe that you have caused as much damage as good. However, may God bless you and guide in His truth.

    • You are just like the pope in the box, Dave. You ascribe all sorts of strange meanings to fundamentalism, which is just believing that God inspired the Bible and that God is the creator of the universe. I think all that other crap you assign to “fundamentalism” is primarily in your mind. I hate to be the cruel hand of reality slapping you across the face but, someone has to do it.

      • Oh, I don’t think you hated it too much. And being a Pharisee is just believing we need to honor God by making sure we care enough about his law to obey it precisely. Many people who are not Fundamentalists, including myself, believe God inspired the Bible and that God is the creator of the universe. You don’t have a corner on the market of those ideas.

        I’m just more willing to take the bible literally in Genesis when it says the sun was created on the fourth day specifically to rule over the time of the day. I don’t have to do a workaround as Fundamentalists do. I just say, “O.K., then, as I figured and as science indicates, the days being described were not governed by the sun.”

        I readily accept at face value what the text actually indicates, which is that the days in Genesis 1 were not solar days — that they were a kind of day ungoverned by the sun. I note that the order of events in Genesis is exactly the same as the order given by evolution and modern cosmology, and so I marvel at the truth of God’s word for being the only ancient text that is in perfect accord with science on the steps involved in creation, and I marvel that God is so great and so long-suffering that his work spans billions of years.

        A Fundamentalist, in order to keep his ideas alive, has to say, “God didn’t really CREATE anything on the fourth day. What he did was REMOVE a vapor that was covering the sun and moon and star so that they could finally be seen. He actually created the sun, contrary to what Genesis says, on the first day when he created light.” A scientifically minded person, on the other hand, knows that light came into existence at the very beginning of the universe in a huge explosion into being of all the matter that would eventually be come the stars and the planets and the moons around the planet.

        “And God said ‘LET THERE BE light.” God let it happen. Each step happened under his guidance. I take that part literally, too. God said, “Let the EARTH bring forth…” and so, out of the very materials of this earth came forth the life that swims upon it followed by the life that walks upon it followed by human beings. The earth did its job of bringing forth life just as God had spoken.

        I marvel at how the steps of this very ancient piece of writing are the only ones to describe to a “t” what science now says happened, even in the order that it happened. The earth brought forth as instructed by God.

        I marvel at how one of the oldest texts on earth gets right that the earth was originally a formless nebula, void of any solidness at all and that the first thing it did was gather into a sphere that separated into a circumference (firmament) of atmosphere and a circumference of sea with no dry land and that, as science teaches, the earth continued to compress until the solids beneath the sea became hot enough to create plate plate tectonics and volcanism so that dry ground began to “appear.”

        Too bad the Fundamentalists butcher the beauty of all that just to make the Bible fit their understanding of scripture. You may be unaware that Christians as far back in time as Augustine and Origin were certain that the days of creation were not twenty-four hour days but were ages of time. Fundamentalists with their narrow constraints put the Christianity at odds with science in ways that even ancient Christians didn’t do.

        Then they butcher science in their own bizarre manifestation of it to say completely ridiculous things like “The fossils in the Grand Canyon were sorted into layers by the flood,” completely divorcing their brains from their mouths because even they know that hydrology settles things out by weight, with the the larger heavier objects on the bottom along with the boulders not the top and that it never smartly separates things by classification or type.

        Thus, if the fossils of Grand Canyon were layered by the flood as their pseudo-science claims in its distorted effort to prove their limited understanding of Genesis as the right one, you would not find all of one kind of tiny little creature on the bottom in a layer of fine clay and all the examples of t-rex with its huge bones in a layer higher up. You’d find t-rex’s giant femurs at the bottom and his smaller bones in layers higher up. But in reality, there he is with all his biggest of bones and all of his tiniest of bones ALWAYS in the same layer of stone. And there is the tiny trilobite far beneath him, always in its same layers of sedimentary stone with all the other trilobites.

        Anything goes with Christian Fundamentalists to keep the themselves from having to admit they were simply wrong. You see, it really has a lot more to do with spiritual pride than with honoring scripture, which is not out of sorts with modern science at all, if one accepts what it actually says, which is really quite amazing, given that all of the other creations accounts by ancient people ARE out of sorts with science.

        –Knave Dave

  5. St Alphonsus Liguori – “All the misfortunes of unbelievers spring from too
    great an attachment to the things of this life. This sickness of heart
    weakens and darkens the understanding, and leads many to eternal ruin.
    If they would try to heal their hearts
    by purging them of their vices, they would soon receive light, which
    would show them the necessity of joining the Catholic Church, where
    alone is salvation. My dear Catholics, let us thank the Divine goodness,
    who, among so many infidels and heretics has given us the grace to be
    born and live in the bosom of the Holy Roman Catholic Church, and let us
    take heed and not be ungrateful for so great a benefit. Let us take
    care and correspond to the Divine Grace, for if we should be lost (which
    God forbid), this very benefit of Grace conferred on us would be one of
    our greatest torments in hell.”

    • repent in Christ and you will be saved.. even your devotion will burn in hell as all the other lies against Your Creator will do the same… from an ex atheist to you, because I know
      the truth and not my truth…

      • You need to advance to Catholicism, which is the True

        To receive this gift of understanding from God, you must have firm purpose not to sin and go to confession.

        John 20:22-23

        “When he had said this, he breathed on them; and he said to them: Receive ye the Holy Ghost. Whose sins you shall forgive, they are forgiven them; and whose sins you shall retain, they are retained.”

        Hebrews 7:12

        “For the priesthood being translated, it is necessary that a translation also be made of the law.”

        Pope Leo XII : Ubi Primum (#14), May 5, 1824

        “It is impossible for the most true God, who is truth itself, the best-the wisest provider, and the rewarder of good men, to approve all sects who profess false teachings, which are often inconsistent with one another and contradictory,
        and to confer eternal rewards on their members. By divine faith we hold “One Faith, One Lord, One Baptism”, this is why we profess there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church.”

        See – “The Catholic Religion proved from the protestant Bible”

        God bless!

      • Do you believe that God is perfect and all knowing as the Bible says? If this is true, then explain to me why he created Satan if he already knew he would fall and reign in Hell…a place that God created.. If God is all knowing, then He knows who will convert to Christianity before he even creates their soul. He also knows which new souls won’t convert and that He will have to condemn to Hell. So how can we have free will when God already knows the future? This can only mean one thing…God is creating souls simply to condemn them. Then of courses there’s always the more logical explanation that the Bible was written by manipulative rulers(Constantine and King James) who’s only desire was to control the uneducated masses who would never question things like this…for those that did ponder these things, they were told it was a sin to question the word of the church.

        • Romans 9:19-23 KJV
          [19] Thou wilt say then unto me, Why doth he yet find fault? For who hath resisted his will? [20] Nay but, O man, who art thou that repliest against God? Shall the thing formed say to him that formed it , Why hast thou made me thus? [21] Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? [22] What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction: [23] And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,

    • repent in Christ and you will be saved.. even your devotion will burn in hell as all the other lies against Your Creator will do the same… from an ex atheist to you, because I know
      the truth and not my truth…

  6. The conflicting beliefs of Christians?
    We have to observe that the people that wrote the BIble did not even realise that the Earth was a globe and a planet. They did not know why the Sun arose in the East and set in the West. And that is our source for which decisions are made.
    There is some controversy as to when they realised that there were two major continents to the West of them we now call North America and South America joined by Central America. In Central America there are parallel words to words used in Europe that date back far before Columbus made his discoveries.
    Yet God exists. Jesus exists. The Holy Spirit exists.
    The problem being that people do not understand the Bible that is written. And why would they? The original languages upon which the books are written are not completely understood either.
    For instance, in King James Bible their are many conflicting facts in the books of the new testament.
    Was it one angel or three? Two books describe a similar incident. One says 3 angels the other says 1. The point is not whether it was 1 or 3. It is that it was described by fallable human beings.
    Was it the camel or the camel hair attempting to be thread by a needle?
    Was it six thousand years of history or was it much longer?
    Was it a traditional day of 24 hours or was it a day of unknown amount of time? Because if it were the later then an enormous amount of Genesis might make sense instead of magic.
    What is a god? Because in ancient times there were many gods claimed by people.
    Worshipped as gods and possibly living amongst the human species.
    Yet for some reason they either died or abandoned the Earth many years prior to Jesus.
    These so called gods practiced a form of magic. They supposedly were capable of many miracles.
    Is Magic real? Jesus had control over the universe around him to the point where he cured so many people witnessed in the New Testament. He was able to walk on water.
    I challenge any minister that claims Christ to walk on liquid water today.
    Not going to happen! Likely the person will swim or die.
    The Pope is only echoing what many feel. That the Bible itself should not be put to the test.
    What does the Pope know that we do not know?
    Genesis fascinated me because it describes creation. Not one creation but two.
    Both being described from a different perspective yet both describing the same thing.
    And on this description is an entire belief system that has remained unchanged over the years.
    Many a Christian has declared God on his side only to discover they are as vulnerable as any other person on the planet to being killed.
    Reality check here. God and Christ are unlikely to save these people from being killed.
    Yet there are also many conflicting stories of people that God has saved for reasons only known to God.
    Also right in the Bible are means spelled out to have miracles happen.
    It is either true or false. One or another. I choose to believe that God can do anything with this universe that God wants to do. I believe Christ was born of woman and conceived of God.
    As such, he had powers over the laws that govern the Universe.
    Most priests of God have no power whatsoever on their own. It is only when 3 practicing Christians get together in prayer that miracles are likely to happen.
    It is no wonder so many are confused.

    • Go back and try studying the Bible with help from someone like H. Ironsides. The answers to all your questions are there but you just missed them.

    • And how many wars did they start or approve of? Cannot think of any fundamentalist wars ever fought. Been one since about 1990 ad still trying to figure out wars we fought for…cannot find any!

  7. I feel like this article is a little bit biased. I am what some people would call a “Protestant” or “Fundamentalist”. However even I can see that what he is saying is being taken out of context. People who have placed the bible above God have often mistranslated the word and caused problems.

    • your biased against Gods truth because it feels safe to please what man says is the case… please don’t fall for this trap.. stand strong in Christ… don’t let mankind lure you and seduce you and cause you to feel obligated… we are worthless worms, with no hope, but in Christ Jesus and it is His unlimited love for us that gives everyone the chance to choose Him.. not the chance to choose Him and evil… it wont mix… it wont work… i know you know this and I can feel it in the way you wrote your comment… please please, in the name of Christ, turn from this deceiver… he’s a distraction and he does “literally” mean what he is saying… he looks nice, dresses nice but inside his heart is filled with the filth of maggots who long for flesh and exaltation… https://crystallives4jesus.wordpress.com… i say this out of humbled concern for you Jesse.. 🙁

  8. When have you EVER heard the pope say that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and that he is the ONLY way to heaven……..that you need Jesus Christ as your Savior in order to have eternal life? Never. Find a video of it…….you won’t be able to. Yet someone like Billy Graham,…….thats all he ever did. WAKE UP FOLKS!!!!

    • Yeah, thats right a filthy rich (25 million to be exact) television evangelist is telling it like it is….stay asleep dear Johnny Utah.

      • One should be really careful if trusting others for Bible
        interpretation, be it a pope or an evangelist. No short cuts, study the
        Word yourselves to get to know His will, and follow Jesus in all you do.
        1 Tim 4:16 Take heed unto thyself, and unto the doctrine; continue in them: for in
        doing this thou shalt both save thyself, and them that hear thee.
        Matt 7:21 “Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will
        enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who
        is in heaven will enter.

    • I hear it every Sunday as we, as Catholics, follow Jesus’ teachings as proscribed in the 6tth Chapter of John regarding the Holy Eucharist. The Catechism of the Church is explicit that Jesus is the only way to heaven.

      • Well I think you need to educate the Pope then because he doesn’t believe it. I know this is a year old but let’s face it, it’s really not had the coverage it needs.

    • You are seeing a puppet of Satan. We are in the End Times Spiritual Wars. People and things are not who or what the appear to be.

  9. Okay, I agree with him that Jesus spoke in parables and things were written in code because God knew that the Vatican and Cesar would canonize the bible. But it was the Pope, Vatican and their Jesuit army that was responsible for the killings of Christians and Jews because they would not accept their religious authority. Yes he is allowing Muslim prayer in his church because it is a religion the Vatican designed and fostered to be their new satanic army. He is working towards a One World Religion, the Vatican heads the New World Order of Religion, London will head the New World Order Financial system and Washington DC heads the New World order Military. These are the only three independent States designed for their plan.

    • Not only that but the transcripts used for ALL versions except the Authorized Version of the Bible originate with the Vatican!!!

    • That understanding is against what the Bible teaches, Radical Islam has been raised up by the Lord to punish the Papacy and all the nations that are drinking of her wine; ”
      And he (Ishmael) will be a wild man; his hand will be against every man, and every man’s hand against him; and he shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren.” (Gen 16:12). Instead of repenting the nations will continue to rebel and make a Sunday law and state that is the fault of God’s people that all these troubles have come upon the world and God’s people will be persecuted by Modern Babylon, but God’s true people will be seen among the nations.

      • If you had been born in an Islamic country, into an Islamic family, there’s a 99.9 % you would most likely be praising Allah and telling us that Christianity was a punishment to the Papacy. Most of us don’t choose our religion, rather its dictated by the circumstance of our birth. All you have to back up your claims is faith…just like the followers of Islam, who believe beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are right and you are wrong. And just like you they can quote scripture to support their claims.

        • Well the Bible teaches that Islam has been raised up to punish the nations who are running after the ways of the Pope (Antichrist), and that is now being demonstrated and will continue to increase. The Bible will prove itself I don’t need to defend it. Islam is an evil satanic religion but God is in control of all things and will use them for His glory and purpose.

          • The Bible was written by a Roman Emperor…its rewrite was written by a British King who wanted a divorce. Neither of these books are the word of God. Maybe some where at the core is the message of God, but 99% is manipulation on the part of rulers who wanted their subject to go to war and obey like good sheep. God does not tell us to make war with one another, rulers do.

          • Eusebius indeed wrote revisions of the Scriptures by orders of Emperor Constantine with the purpose to unite his kingdom and the Emperors efforts to paganize christianity was a success.

            Codex Alexandrinus and Codex Sinaiticus are allegedly the oldest versions of Scriptures but they stand alone, they do not have a cloud of witnesses, like the branch of copies that are called Textus Recepticus.

            The Dead Sea Scrolls are in unison with the Textus Recepticus and show that little have changed in the Scriptures. I would not trust any Latin translation or any version that has been “found in a trashbin” of a catholic monastery or that have its roots in Egypt.

            King James was a Protestant King and defended the Reformation against the idolatry of Rome.

            Jesus did not come to bring unity between the seed of the woman and the serpent, but to bring truth and truth causes division: between erroneous doctrine and Bible based truth. Matt 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.


    • Hell: a place created by a god who condemned those refuse to love him and worship him or place Created by the Catholic Church to scare people into obeying?
      Did Jesus talk about Hell, or did the Catholics just say he did? Prior to the Catholic Church, there was no mention of Hell and according to the Old Testament Satan was an agent working on behalf of God. All we have on Hell and the Devil comes from the Catholics….a religion that the rest of Christianity believes is pagan. Basically King James decides he wants a divorce and rewrites the Bible, which quotes Jesus as saying that divorce is forbidden. Every single Christian religion is an offshoot,of an off shoot,of an offshoot…but they all share one thing in common…they wouldn’t exist if a Roman Emperor hadn’t created the Catholic church (which is why the Bible tells you that you have to pay your taxes to Caesar. Do think the Creator of the universe really cares if you pay your taxes to Rome?)
      Each time a new Christian religion is formed, it takes us one step further from the original source…the Torah, which according to it is the absolute and final word of God and to alter or not follow it to the letter is a sin. This basically means Christianity is an abomination. Its even possible it was created by Satan (on behalf of God) to test the faith of his true and only chosen people…the Jews. If Adam and Eve were created by Yahweh (the actual name of God, but Christians can’t have a god with a Jewish name, so they changed it to God) then Christianity is the serpent in the garden.
      I’m sure some of you hard core Christians will come back with some invalid arguments based on the Christian bible, but you can’t change the fact that the Torah clearly says it is the perfect word of God. And you will never offer any proof that the Christian Bible is what God really wanted. Your only proof is the word of a Roman Emperor, who himself was not a Christian. According to the leaders of the Catholic church, Constantine converted on his death bed, but once again, all we have is their word that this actually took place. Billions of Christians existing simply because a Roman emperor thought it would be easier to control the masses under one religion. Too bad that religion was so full of holes that its continues to collapse under its own lies. Merry Christmas everyone! Today is the day your Lord and savior, Mithra, who was born to a virgin!!! It also happens to be the day the the SUN is resurrected, after residing in the underworld for 3 days…now where have I heard this story before?

  11. Peace be with you. Some of you make a bit of sense. Others, need to better understand the word. Do the scriptures not mention the world will come to one religion? Do you not remember “I will be their God, and they will be my people”? I am not defending the pope by no means. I have but one Father. Did the man you call savior ever treat other people with such words as those I read in these posts? Did the man Jesus ever judge? Did the man Jesus wish harm on others? Many have a lot to learn, many will deny learning simply because it goes outside of the box they are placed in. DO you know what Jesus said about that? There is but one God. All religions worship him. No single religion is teaching anything other than one God. It is the minds of the children of men whom distort the understanding, and only know of an unknown god which prevent them from knowing the Living God. Him I proclaim to you. Namaste,

  12. Pope Frances obviously does NOT read the Bible. In there it says our God is a God of love. Allah tells his followers to kill anyone who will not become a Muslim. ….Our God has a son, Allah does not have a son. Our God is 3 persons in one. Allah is only one. There is NO way Jehovah God is the moon God Allah!

    • Seems like many confessors of different beliefs are not even following their own Scriptures, be they christian, jew, muslim or buddha etc.

      Murder is strictly forbidden in the Qur’an.

      6:151 says, “and do
      not kill a soul that God has made sacrosanct, save lawfully.” (i.e.
      murder is forbidden but the death penalty imposed by the state for a
      crime is permitted). 5:53 says, “… whoso kills a soul, unless it be for
      murder or for wreaking corruption in the land, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind; and he who saves a life, it shall be as if he had given life to all mankind.”

      2. If the motive for terrorism is religious, it is impermissible in
      Islamic law. It is forbidden to attempt to impose Islam on other people.

      The Qur’an says, “There is no compulsion in religion. The right way has
      become distinct from error.” (-The Cow, 2:256). Note that this verse
      was revealed in Medina in 622 AD or after and was never abrogated by any
      other verse of the Quran. Islam’s holy book forbids coercing people
      into adopting any religion.
      3. Islamic law forbids aggressive
      warfare. The Quran says, “But if the enemies incline towards peace, do
      you also incline towards peace. And trust in God! For He is the one who
      hears and knows all things.” (8:61) The Quran chapter “The Cow,” 2:190,
      says, “Fight in the way of God against those who fight against you, but
      begin not hostilities. Lo! God loveth not aggressors.”

    • I guess you don’t read the bible either. “Jehovah our God is ONE Jehovah.” Deuteronomy 6:4

      “Jesus answered: “The first is, ‘Hear O Israel, Jehovah our God is ONE Jehovah” Mark 12:29

      The Trinity is a false doctrine. There is no “godhead”. Jesus himself said, “The Father is GREATER than I am” John 14:28

      • Oh yes, I DO read the Bible, actually read it through every year!

        Deuteronomy 6:4 actually says “Hear O Israel: The Lord our God is One Lord. (KJV)
        Mark 12:29 actually says “And Jesus answered him, The first of all commandments is Hear , O Israel, The Lord our God is One Lord…..(interesting, Jesus, who is GOD Almighty actually quotes Deut. 6:4 word for word….hmmmm…

        And the Trinity is NOT a false doctrine. Read 1 John 5:7 in the King James Version.

        “For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.”

        Hmmmmm, sounds like THREE, which is describing the TRINITY….

        As for the Godhead, there IS a godhead….read Romans 1:20. The HIS there, is JESUS.,…who is God AlmightY…. Read Isaiah 9:6 (Describes no other that Jesus Christ Himself…..GOD.

        Also read Colossians 2:9 “For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily.” (him again, here is Christ Jesus!)

    • Why not, is it not truth that was meant to be sown like the leaves of autumn? “But dissatisfaction was expressed by some of our own people. One said:’A stop must be put to this work, or our business will be spoiled.’ As one brother was carrying away an armful of books, a canvasser laid his hand upon his arm and said: ‘My brother, what are you doing with so many books?’ Then I heard the voice of our Counselor saying:’ Forbid them not. This is a work that should be done. The end is near. Already much time has been lost, when these books should have been in circulation. Sell them far and near. Scatter them like the leaves of autumn. This work is to continue without the forbiddings of anyone. Souls are perishing out of Christ. Let them be warned of His soon appearing in the clouds of heaven.” { PM 343.2}

      • Every Saturday Sabbath believer I ever talked to online always saw the forsaking of Saturday Sabbaths and forced to hold Sunday Services as the beginning of the end times. Personally I could care less when a service is happening-the most important thing is to not forsake the gathering of believers.

        • Hi Dave, it is interesting that you used the word believers, but exactly what does that mean? If it is believing in Christ you refer to then surely you believe what He says is important or not? “And Jesus answered him, saying, It is written, That man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word of God.” (Luk 4:4) “And why call ye me, Lord, Lord, and do not the things which I say? Whosoever cometh to me, and heareth my sayings, and doeth them, I will shew you to whom he is like: He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock. But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.” (Luk 6:46-49)

  13. ” For example, the Bible tells us that we are to reject other gods, but earlier in his papacy Francis authorized “Islamic prayers and readings from the Quran” at the Vatican for the first time ever…”

    The god of Islam is the same god the Christians worship….the Jewish god.

    • The arab people are also descendants of Abraham, the Edomites (Esau “Red” as Erythra/Phoenicia) intermarrying Ishmael. They worshipped a Moon God Hubal/Allah in the Ka’ba/most Holy Place.

      Mohammed was 25 years old when he married a catholic, wealthy and politically influential nun; Khadija, who was 40 at the time. When comparing the Quran to the Torah, it gets even clearer that islam is of this judeo-catholic origin. The roman-catholic church has it’s roots in Babylonian sun worship. (Sun Day worship, the characteristic, sign, banner, mark of the Beast/power) Islam denies that Jesus is Divine and the catholic church claims that He “did not come all the way down” why they turn to Mary (Isis/Queen of Heaven/sun worship cult) and the priests as mediators between man and God, this kind of worship has no biblical base in Scriptures..

      The Father of whom Jesus speak, is Love. God is Love and the Creator of Heaven and Earth. 1 John 4:8. Jesus is the Living Word (Immanuel, God with us) fully man and fully God.

      John 1:1-3
      “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through Him, and apart from Him nothing came into being that has come into being.(see also Psalms 84)

      Jesus said in John 14:6: “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” So this is God, the Father, different from the others because Jesus is the ONLY way to the Kingdom. Love is a core aspect of God’s character.

      The Israel of God is spiritual, not a country on the map, bloodlines or converts to traditions. The Old Covenant with Israel as a nation ended with the stoning of Stephen in 34 AD. Individually, everyone can choose to follow Jesus, our Savior and King by baptism and becoming a disciple of Christ. May God bless You and Yours, in Jesus name, amen.

  14. Those who wrote the Bible are the greatest fundamentalists of all and Christians, real ChristIans who know the Word (Christ), understand this. I’m amazed at the vast majority of people that do not know this, who are ignorant of the Scriptures, as I’m amazed at how people have voted the past 30 years. And, a One-World religion! Truly we are in the Last Days!

  15. The Catholic Church developed the canon of scriptures that make up the Bible used by all Protestant denominations. Except for the changes Martin Luther made to it by throwing out 7 OT books it is the same one Catholics use. I am afraid the author of this article has taken quite a bit out of context.

  16. My name is Terry R. Hyche, my comment is about the Judgement of the Creator of all things. We need not worry or become angry and abusive.The Truth of the Word Himself will desire an account of the popes statements and actions. Believe the Word Himself when he says “Vengeance is mine sayeth The Lord and I shall repay”, That being said would make me a true fundamentalist. Thanks be to the Saviour of all mankind for my desire for the Lords peace. I hope others can find the peace the Lord has given me. The Truth was hung on a tree for all to see, He passed with Grace saying, ” Father forgive them for they no not what they do”. I am very happy to say that same Grace extends to every human being on and in this world. May the Lord forgive the ignorance of us all.

  17. Easy enough of a response-so the pope does not believe Jesus Christ is God? The pope does not believe Christ died for our sins?
    And was resurrected?

    Those are some of the fundamentals of faith we try to maintain.

    If we are a cancer or a sickness-that so must the beliefs of fundamentalism

  18. the pope doesn’t know his history. Rome was not sacked by Christians. The Goths, yes. The Christians, no. The Visgoths over time became Christians but many years after the sack of Rome. The pope is sadly delusional and will draw many away from the faith. Now that they are reading the koran at the vatican one can only pray, since that is condoning not just a world religion, but ISIS and the murders of the catholics in France. As for calling Bible believing Christians a sickness yup -that’s Isaiah.

  19. Religious extremism is not a good thing. To say that one group has the entire truth and that no one has it but them is erroneous. To hold to an extremely literal interpretation of scripture lays the foundation for terrorism. For humanity to survive and know any kind of peace and justice we must afford to each individual the same rights we claim for ourselves.The scriptures can be used to heal, restore and unite or they can be used to hurt, to devalue and divide. Much like electricity, which can save your life by providing a heater in freezing weather, it can also kill if it is handled incorrectly. Jesus said, “by this shall all men know that you are my disciples, that you have love one to another.” This is the litmus test of a “true” Christian. By this standard, anyone who is preaching hate, intolerance and divisiveness can not be regarded as a true Christian. Agape love places no preconditions on its being given. It is, as it should be, unconditional.

  20. Wow, well then I’m a fundamentalist for sure as I believe in one God only, who sent his Son to die for our sins and I believe 100% every word, every miracle that was told in the Bible. The Lord said ‘My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge’ glad I left the Catholic religion years ago. Get out of her my people before it’s to late.

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